Saturday, October 19, 2013

House of Krazees/Twiztid/The R.O.C./Halfbreed/Native Funk/Krazy Klan Audio Values (updated 11/30/2018)

**Price 1 is non-sealed, price 2 is sealed**

Twiztid flooded the market w/audio. Don't expect to always get these prices listed for most of your shit as of 3/2018. Thanks Twiztid.

Home Sweet Home:
Tape: $30+/$40+
CD: $40+/$50+
Vinyl: $20/$25
This item was originally produced on tape. Released on October 1, 1993 by Asylum Productions. Only 500 (although now rumor is 300) of these were made. This tape marks the oldest audio by Jamie and Monoxide. Now, in 2000/2001, these just started popping up like nothing, as their old manager leaked a bunch out to Hot Hits, so the market flooded, and value had decreased steadily. There are slight variations, like the quality of the cover, the actual tape, and other small things to suggest that these are possible reprints. We may never know. In the summer of 2003, Twiztid rereleased Home Sweet Home on CD during the Green Book Tour. Now, later in 2003, TwiztidShop.com had a deal where you got the CD and matching shirt for 30 bucks. The bag came sealed with a sticker. There was a version (such as mine) that had the Majik Recordz logo on the back...there is no difference in value on these as far as I can see.

Homebound:
Tape: $100/$150+
CD: $40/$60
Reissue tape: $10+/$20+ [no poster] / $20+/$30+ [w/poster], $50+/$100+ [sealed w/sticker]
Vinyl: $20/$25
This item was originally produced on tape. They were released 6/21/1994 by Retro Horror Music Label. These tapes have no barcode, and only 200 were produced, making it one of, if not THE hardest HOK items to find, and the most expensive. In early 2004, Twiztid rereleased this on CD, much like they did for HSH. Also, like HSH, there was a Combo Bag, which had the CD, along with a Homebound shirt. FYI the cover of the OG Homebound tape is from the movie Ghost Story from the 1980s. Reissued on black & white cassette in 2016 in a bundle w/a poster for $30. Also, there was a version that came sealed with a sticker limited to 50(?) copies that's very rare. Expect that to fetch a high price in the future.

Season of the Pumpkin
Retro Horror Muzik
Tape: $50+/$75+
Latnem release
Tape: $15+/$25+
CD (1) (2): $50+/$75+
Frightfest Remaster
CD: $50+/$75+
Vinyl: $20/$25
The Retro tape has no barcode, and contains different samples on songs, and has unedited shout-outs, all of which was changed for the Latnem reissued versions (these were restored in the FF Remaster). Also, we have been sent some info on a version, that by looking at the pictures, the CD itself is “clear” instead of black, but it is not a CD-R. I believe these were sold at the GOTJ 2002, which I assume to be the left-over stock Psychopathic received in the settlement for the HOK back catalog. Fast forward to 2004, and like the other albums, Twiztid remasters and rereleases SOTP as a give-away single at FrightFest 2004. They come sealed, and with a FF sticker.

Head Trauma:
Tape: $35+/$40+
2010 Tour Remaster:
CD: $25+/$30+ (+$5 for auto'd)
Vinyl: $20/$25
This is their last full-length album as a group and was re-released on CD for a tour in 2010. The remaster isn't much better than a tape rip, which is a shame. Tape/CD are basically the same in value. The album itself was originally released on 10/31/1996.

Outbreed:
Tape: $30+/$40+
CD: $50+/$75+
Vinyl: $20/$25
This was HOK's first new album with Latnem. Some people are selling this at HIGHLY inflated prices on Ebay...do NOT fall for it. $100+ for this is NOT worth it.

Remix and Rewind-Collector's Edition '97:
Tape: $40+/$50+
This was released only on tape. There have been some CDs popping up on Ebay as "sealed" but Twiztid never mentioned them re-releasing this, even at the Gathering. Also, the CD says Latnem which is also suspect since Twiztid has hatred for Walter AND their other re-releases do NOT say Latnem on them. These are fakes, do NOT buy these. This was released in 3 colors: Blue, orange, & green. The cover is also a sticker. The sealed versions are getting harder to come by now, hence a higher price difference.

Casket Cutz:
CD: $15+/$20+ ($30+ for pre-sale auto'd)
Tape (orange;purple): $10+/$15+;$10+/$15+
Black Tape: Store price
Pre-order bag set: $50+ (w/auto)
So, the cd is readily available on Twiztid's store site so the value is not gonna be high. The auto'd pre-sale ones I'm est. will be good for $25 since its auto'd by all of HOK. The bag set is SEALED and has the shirt and auto'd CD in it with a sticker that seals the bag and was only available as a pre-order. The orange tape is ltd. to 500 but it could increase to CC Halloween values eventually ($150 sealed) but for now it's not at that point. The purple one is sold out on Twiztid-Shop so its value has increased. There are only 500 copies of the purple tape available. Since Twiztid flooded the market, prices for all their shit have dropped drastically. So don't expect to get much for any of their shit.


Mob Mentality Compilation:

Tape: $50+/$100+
This features the LAST HOK song as a group (until the Monster track in 2013) and this is hard to find, especially sealed. I've seen it go for $200 open which is highly inflated but sealed it would go for $100+ and I've rarely seen it available on Ebay (when I bought it).

The Night They Kame Home:
CD: $80+/$125+
This was the first HOK release with The R.O.C. and Skrapz after Bones and Hektic went and formed Twiztid due 2 issues with Latnem. It's rare now, and only on CD, and is pretty pricey. Expect to pay a minimum of $80 for it.

The Howse-Esohpromatem:
Tape: $40+/$50+
CD: $40+/$60+
So this what I was told by a fan: "The Howse was the ROC, Beast, & Armageddon featuring Pimpett, produced by Mr. Vitology, released on Latnem Int. Its much more rare than anything HOK and worth a lot more. There was 3 tape samplers, then the album released on tape & cd, unreleased tracks and a rumored second album never published."  Regardless, Ebay prices do NOT reflect this being that valuable in the past (I paid like $40 for the CD).

The Howse-Esopromatem Promo:
Tape: $50+/$60+
I don't have much info on this just that I know there is a red foil cassette (which is what the price reflects). This was released on Latnem as well.

Mr. Bones and the Sons of Midnight-The Demon Inside:
Tape: $150+/$250+
This item was only produced on tape. This was Mr Bones’ first solo project, done with the Sons of Midnight on Skelton Records in 1994. Only containing 4 tracks, this is still very rare and possibly one of the most sought after HOK related items by Psychopathic and Detroit Rap collectors. There is also a version of the Red Foiled tape without a barcode. This is the second printing of the tape, but as of right now, both are still very rare and equally valuable to the Collecting World. Here is the gold foil version and both gold/red are equally valuable as far as I'm concerned. I have never seen a red foil on Ebay.

Mr. Bones-Sacrifice
Tape: $175+/$275+
2011 Remaster
CD: $40+ (add +$20 for auto'd copies from the tour; never sealed)
I have never seen this tape on Ebay...period. Hence, the higher value than The Demon Inside. This was released in '95 by Bones and was his first full-length LP. It's very good as was highly sought after...until the CD came out. You can find the CD on Ebay easily, auto'd copies occasionally pop up too. The tape was blue foil and released on Brain Dead Records.

Twiztid-Blood Red Fanclub Vinyl Volume 1:
Vinyl: $50+ (never sealed)
This was finally pressed Oct 2013 and is limited to a hand-numbered 300 copies. This is on VINYL only, and it's blood-red in color. Right now prices are in the range I have listed but I expect them to increase in the future due to the limited number of these out there.


Twiztid-Frightfest 2013 Single:
CD: $20+
So this is finally on Ebay and it came in a black sleeve, never sealed. I've seen some outrageous prices but seeing this going as low as $30 is the one that matters. For now, if you pay over $30 for this, it's not worth it. I'd even go as far as to say over $40 but even ICP/Boondox Hallowicked 2013 is only going for $15 sealed. It will surely go up in value but for now it's a steady $30.

Twiztid-Cryptic Collection 5 (Holiday Edition):
CD: $100+/$150+
Ok so it goes like this, this was released FREE on the interwebz BUT Twiztid also released this on CD as well, but it was only available at the Big Baller Xmas Party in 2009 to the first 100 people. So, there are only 100 legit copies out there. I say legit b/c someone decided to bootleg these for cash so beware of fakes. An easy way to tell once they’re opened is the disc will be lightscribed, along with the sticker being in the wrong spot, and the cellophane wrap being different.

Twiztid-A Cut-Throat Christmas:
CD: $30/$60+
Vinyl: $15+/$20+
Not too valuable to the collecting world (probably b/c most of these songs have been found on other compilations) this is no longer in print and not too hard to find on Ebay. Also, it was recorded on a CD-R, not a silver cd. Definitely a better find than that CC5 Holiday Edition, much cheaper and most of the same songs. Reissued in 2016 on a really cool looking vinyl

Twiztid-The Green Book:
CD: $15+/$25+
2016 CD: $8+/$12+
2016 Vinyl: $20+/$30+
I have no idea why this keeps going out of print but it did, then re-released, then back out of print. Not too rare but just rare enough to have the prices a lil higher than retail costs. This is easy to find on Ebay/Amazon/etc. Reissued in 2016 with different artwork on both CD & vinyl.


Halfbreed-Serial Killaz
CD (OG): $50+/$70+
CD: $40+/$55+
So the OG one has the cover looking like a photo collage. The re-release well, see the pic. Not too rare for the re-release as there are a bunch up on Ebay. The OG one is a little rarer and both versions are hard to find sealed. You should all know Halfbreed was The R.O.C. as Sol46 and Skrapz.

Halfbreed-Kontimination
CD: $35+/$50+
First full LP by The R.O.C. and Skrapz, this has become sought-after BUT it's easily found on Ebay. When I owned the CD and mine was pressed on a CD-R, not a silver CD. I've also seen some pressed on silver CDs. I can only assume the CD-R is a reprint halfbreed did.

Halfbreed-Rage Of The Plague:
CD: $100+/150+
Very rare & hard to find cheap at all, expect to pay a hefty sum for this.

Halfbreed-The End
CD: $30+/$50+
The final Halfbreed cd, a greatest hits of sorts with alternate versions of songs from Kontamination as well. This is easily found on Ebay though sometimes at inflated prices (ahem, Cd Gangster, ahem).

Krazy Klan-Frustrations:
Tape: $100+/$150+
This item was only available on cassette. Coming out in 1995, this was the first project of the Krazy Klan, which was ABk as Jaymo and Lavel as Jayho. Quite rare.

Krazy Klan-P.C.B. Productions Demo
CD: $$$$
The demo before developMENTAL is labeled under P.C.B. Productions and every song is different except Can You Feel It. The reasoning is the third member of KK got bumped out cause of money issues and management issues. Can You Feel It is the same track cause that is the track that got them the label deal. if you ever see a copy of this demo that song will be highlighted because of this. My source for this info is Joey O the member thats not in the group anymore.The production quality itself is already kinda shitty. They put it together real quick just to have something to burn on a CD. Most songs will cut off at the very end but that's just cause its the legit demo. They only made a handful a of copies.

Krazy Klan-DevlopMENTAL:
CD: $75+/$100+
CD (Re-release): $40+/$50+
This item was only available on CD. Years pass, and the KK bust out with a new album on Slangtown Records. This would be the last collab effort from the Krazy Klan. Also of note, these were never sealed with plastic like CDs are, but they did have a sticker to keep it closed.. so technically, you could find a “sealed” one, but now you know. There is also a second version of this, that came in a blank case, and the track listing was right on the CD. It was actually sold at the first Gathering for very cheap. Also, ABK just re-released this on tour in 2014. Now, to backtrack, before the version we have a picture of, there were two other versions.
They had Green CDs, and on the back was a picture of sluts. One version was censored (and limited to 100 copies) and the other was uncensored (You would assume the uncensored is more limited? Who knows…). Needless to say, these are pretty hard to find, although I believe the Censored one was sold around 1999 at Hot Hits. Also of note, it is believed that there was a “demo” CD (CD-R, actually, with inserts) that has two tracks that do NOT appear on the regular version – Push It Up and Rock It Steady. Obviously, this, and these songs, are very hard to come by. Also, after ABK left PSY, he re-released this (as well as Native Funk).

Native Funk-Rain From The Sun:
CD (OG;OG v2): $100+/$150+;$75+/$100+
CD: $15+/$20+
This item was only available on CD. After KK parted ways, Jaymo took on the Native Funk image, and put this solo CD out. As with his previous ventures on audio, this was pretty limited in distribution (only 500 according to the re-release), and is very hard to find. Also of note, there are two versions of this – the first was released in small numbers. Then, the second version quickly came out, and on the back of the insert it has thanks/props written out. So, Version 1 is a little rarer, and the value may fluctuate slightly either way accordingly. Come 2006 ABK is off PSY and re-releases RFTS as a 2CD set with the bonus Rattlesnake Ep as CD2. Both are CD-Rs. Both are rare and I wish I never sold mine. Here is CD1 and here is CD2. Now it's come to my attention he re-released the re-releases in 2014 while on tour. I don't see a difference at all between the 2 re-releases so prices shall remain the same.

White Devil Productions Presents Underground Shit Volume 1
CD: $20/$40
I don't know much about this just that it's out of print and rare. It features the song Krazy Klan by, you guessed it, Krazy Klan. And ya'll know who they were. I BELIEVE this is the only compilation this song is on (it's not on any albums). Also features Halfbreed, Dead Mike, L.U. Cipha, & Y.U.G. Good shit indeed. I say it on Amazon too if anyone wants to purchase it while it's available.

Twiztid-A Place In The Woods (Single)
CD: $40/$50
From what I understand this was a VIP giveaway single and produced in limited quantities. I've only seen a few on Ebay and $50 for a sealed one is the cheapest I've seen it. Pics to come when mine arrives.

Twiztid-Get Twiztid
Pre-order version CD: $10/$15
So this was released on Twiztid-Shop and was originally $8.99. Of course since you cant get it anymore the price has gone up. Not much demand for this right now, maybe in the future there will be.

Black Majik-Wrong With Me
CD: $75+
Released on CD only for Hallowicked 2001, never sealed. This is a scrapped project by Jamie Madrox. Quite rare and I paid over $60 for my copy.

The R.O.C.-Bits & Pieces Volume 1
CD: $25/$30+
2016 CD: $8/$10
Released in 2004, never thought this would be out of print at the time but yop, it is. Def worth getting for the old school tracks. Released on a "professional" CD-R, see pic. 2016 reissue is on a professional silver-CD & has artwork on the disc & everything.

Twiztid-Frightfest 2003 Ep
CD: $50/$70+
So this has gotten considerably rarer these days & actually I'm seeing an open one w/scratches on ebay going for $184 (with bids). I wouldn't really count on them all going at that price though, this could just be lucky for the seller. Anyway, it's a good EP, worth checking it out.

The Golden Goldies-Gimme Them Fuckin' Nuggets Bitch Or I'll Punch Your Fuckin' Face
Tape: $$$$$
CD: $30+/$40+
This exists yet, is so rare I've only seen it on ebay 1 time. It's so valuable that you can't really put a price on it. I have no idea if it came sealed or not (though I doubt it). This was only released on CD once in 2017 (see further down).  Their only LP, Gimme Them Fuckin' Nuggets Bitch, Or I'll Punch Your Fuckin' Face, was recorded in 1995 in a span of one week, and was not publicly released. Do NOT buy the bootleg CDs you see on ebay, just the GOTJ 2017 reissue.

Twiztid-For The Fam Volume 2
CD: $15/$20
Twiztid-Shop.com exclusive, this was only available for a limited time. No longer offered but you can download the web version for free.

Blaze-Let It Burn
CD: $20 (+5 for Auto)
Released in 2013, never sealed

The R.O.C.-Don't Look Behind You
CD: $5/$10
Available on Twiztid-Shop now, originally it was only available on the Twiztid tour in 2014, the last few dates.

Twiztid-The Darkness
Vinyl:  $20/$30
Released in 2015 & only 10 tracks on this compared to the CD/digital download, there were only 1500 made. Also has a digital download card inside (for all 10 tracks but only 256kbps). Vinyl is solid black in color & not a high-quality 180g vinyl either. This was really a disappointment, however it is no longer available and probably will be highly sought-after in the future.

The R.O.C.-Sol46 Wormholes Ep
CD: $25/$35
This was released when The R.O.C. changed his name to Sol46 for a few years (Halfbreed era). Pretty easy to find.

Twiztid-Twiztid Kix
CD: $20+/$30+
Only available when you purchase the $150 shoes, this will become highly sought-after in the future. It's basically an ad jingle plugging the shoes so it's not really worth the effort or money to purchase.

Twiztid-Bad Trip (VIP Single)
CD: $20+/$30+
A VIP single for one of their recent tours I believe. Not too many of these show up on eBay.

Twiztid-Feed The Beast (VIP Single)
CD: $20+/$30+
Only available on yet another tour, this is seldom on eBay.

Twiztid-My Ornaments (2015 XMAS Single)
CD: $20+/$30+
Only available by buying merch from Twiztid-Shop during the XMAS holiday

Insane Clown Posse-Riddle Box Reversed Colors Version
CD: $100+/$150+Literally I just sold this for $130, used but near mint condition. It's super rare & seldom ever available for purchase. The kicker with how I got mine? Bought it for $1 (no lie) used & before I bought it I opened it to look for an order form & saw it was reversed colors.

Twiztid-Freek Show 15th Anniversary
CD: $15/$25
You know how Twiztid do, originally only available 1 night only & on Twiztid-Shop til gone. Well, it was on their 2016 Spooktacular Horror Tour as well. So I guess not as limited as 1 would think...but it's no longer in their store so who knows if it'll be available again. CD is not remastered either.

The R.O.C.-It's My Addiction
Vinyl:$10/$15
Available as a bundle only OR on Twiztid's Psychomania 2016 tour.

Twiztid-Psychomania
CD:$20/$25+
Tour-only EP with exclusive tracks. Sold most of my copies off for $20-$25+, I expect the prices won't go too much higher in the future.

Triple Threat-Triple Threat EP
CD: $20/$25+
Tour-only EP with 3 un-named tracks released on the Psychomania 2016 Tour. Sold mine off for this price, with the album coming soon I don't expect prices to go much higher in the future.

Insane Clown Posse-Incredible Collectible Collection
CD1; CD2: $80+/$90+
Haven't seen many of these up on eBay so they're pretty scarce. Only 500 made, sold only at GOTJ 2017 & sold out quickly. Most who have these are holding on to them. I've seen sealed copies go for upwards of $100 sometimes.

Twiztid-Mirror Mirror 2017 Edition
CD: $50+/$60+
Only available for one-night only I believe, 1000 copies produced. I didn't hear anything about it be remastered, it's just different artwork. So really, it's not worth the price people are selling it for (I've seen $100). Wait til the price drops before purchasing.

Twiztid-Mostasteless [20th Anniversary Edition]
CD:$60+/$75+
Vinyl: $40+/$50+
Only available on the 20th anniversary tour AND only if you purchase the VIP package on top of the general admission ticket (average $140+ total) will you get this silver-CD reissue. It's not remastered, it just has diff artwork & is a silver CD, not a CDr like some reissues. Very limited release. The vinyl was only available for the Twiztid audio box which was $50. It came sealed & has similar artwork as the 20th anniversary CD. Limited as well but not as much as the CD is.

Twiztid-How Does It Feel? 7in Vinyl Single
Vinyl: $10+/$15+
Limited to /500 on solid black vinyl, ft a new version of the song recorded in 2017. Only place to get this new version.

Twiztid-Dead & Gone 7in Vinyl
Vinyl: $55+ (never sealed so no sealed price available)
Limited, included as a part of a pre-order bundle only, this gray & purple splatter-colored vinyl has become sought after. Hard to find one under $55 to start. Features an exclusive remix ft Jarren Benton.

Twiztid-Nosferatu 7in Vinyl Single
Vinyl: $10+/$15+
Limited (to /250 supposedly) and sold out quickly but then appeared for pre-order on Twiztid-Shop.com so that # coulda increased.

House of Krazees-Death 4 Any1 Who... Single
CD: $30+
Extremely limited CDr, released only w/the audio box set that went for $50. CD was never sealed, came in a paper white sleeve.

Zodiace Mprint-Ride the Stars [Green Version]
CD: $15+/$25+
This was a pre-order bundle item unavailable outside of the pre-order. It's hard to find & it took me a min to get a copy for myself. It's not really sought after I believe, but it was entirely produced by The R.O.C. whereas the blue version wasn't. This did come sealed. Also, the tracklist is entirely wrong on some copies also, this may make those versions more valuable but who knows.

Gorilla Voltage-GV EP
CD: $10+/$15+
This was a tour-exclusive EP that was put up on MNE's store for a limited time due to manufacturing delays. It's now sold out online but was for sale for $8+shipping. This was pressed on a silver CD





Audio pro-tip:
Silver CDs are pressed using the replication process
CDr's are pressed using the duplication process
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About this blog (Updated 12/19/2014)

This blog is predominately for the rare audio collectors out there, focused more on Psychopathic Records/House of Krazees/etc audio with potentially other artists/genres as well (depending on site growth). Why did I make this if PT is still around? Well, they rarely update and the prices are waaaaaaaay off on the audio so boom...here I am. Some descriptions are taken from PT so props to them. Also, I won't put a lot of singles pricing, etc. It'd take too long and I'd like to stick to the full LPs/EPs. Anything new that comes out I'll try to add in as it comes. This way I won't get backed up. If you don't see the audio release listed here or PT Traders (and it's older, I'm trying to add the newer limited edition stuff myself as it comes out) it's highly likely it's a FAKE and do NOT buy it. An example would be Demon Inside on CD or House of Krazees Collector's Edition on CD: they were never released on CD.

Values will be updated as much as I can.